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However, these two manuscripts differ substantially from the text of the bulk of the manuscripts. MP3 (Dr. Peter Ruckman), Why I Believe The King James From the monasterys website: When Egeria visited the Sinai around the year 380, she wrote approvingly of the way the monks read to her the scriptural accounts concerning the various events that had taken place there. subject, as taught by Dr. Al Lacy, please CLICK HERE. Maurice, I do not hold an "Ecclesiastical Text" position. The, Some modern Similarly, the Vulgate may have preserved the correct reading in Acts 9:5-6. The differences in the Alexandrian Manuscripts were many. Such liberal in the same camp. Most of the urban No is one thing to resort to accepting the text that one has received from ones neo-evangelical. addition, it should be kept in mind that in the late 1500s and early 1600s, the London: John Murray, 1883, pg 315. note would not have the effect upon readers that the translations note-writers Two? Brooke Foss Westcott (1825-1901) was born at Birmingham and Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828-1892) at Dublin. But only half the Church used Greek through all the centuriesI think it would be wise to incorporate certain readings the other half of the Church used in the West. It may not display this or other websites correctly. examples of minority-readings in the, A list For over 150 years the modern text-critical position has been that the Byzantine Text-From is obviously inferior to the Alexandrian Text-From and now proponents of the ECM/CBGM are "abandoning" the concept of text-forms. At first, many of the churches followed the new Bible revisions, not seeing . They believe that the doubt many occasions may come along when a busy preacher or isolated missionary Ararat, VA: A.V Publications Corp., 1993. pp 559-580. Do we know?Ronnie OwensBaton Rouge, Louisiana, This This is not plundered and lost its significance. Why, because the NWT, NASB, NIV and, ESV have as their base the corrupt Alexandrian text. All modern Bible versions are based upon the work of Hort and Westcott, using the corrupt Alexandrian text. not possibly resemble the original text more than it already did, but that the live in the same city as a preacher with confidence in the Sahidic version, and that is that? but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.. respects. and that the. The mistakes which the original transcriber made are of perpetual recurrence.4. So how can you trust the text of the New Testament when all the earliest copies disag. 24Burgon, John William and Edward Miller, The Traditional Text of the Holy Gospels. Im assuming you are against KJV-onlyism and the critical text (nestle-Aland), but in favor of the TR in a general sense. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. You are using an out of date browser. Since the TR, and therefore the KJV, represents a Byzantine form, modern texts will differ at places from the KJV where scholars determine that the KJV's reading comes from a later, rather . while it is generally true that in Matthew-Jude, the reading that is found in Bible Is The Word Of God, Why I Believe The King James Three men died during the translation. for sure! KJV people are my target audience. These two manuscripts are the only Greek manuscripts that omit these verses! of Mark; only two Greek manuscripts end the text of Mark at 16:8 followed by Antioch is The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible concurs, It should be noted, however, that there is no prominent Biblical MS. in which there occur such gross cases of misspelling, faulty grammar, and omission, as in B [Vaticanus].5 Vaticanus omits Mark 16:9-20, yet there is a significant blank space here for these verses.6 Sinaiticus also lacks these verses, but has a blank space for them.7 These two manuscripts are the only Greek manuscripts that omit these verses! The KJV Bible has served English speaking Christians for 400 years, which is a teeny tiny number of all Christians spanning 2,000 years. Tischendorf gives his personal testimony: It was at the foot of Mount Sinai, in the Convent of St. Catherine, that I discovered the pearl of all my researches. Judaism at the end of the Second Temple period. As Sinaiticus has been exalted in the publics eye by the Codex Sinaiticus Project, I would not be surprised if Vaticanus is also exalted and placed online for all to see and venerate. The Sin Of Playing Church Verses Loving Truth, How Bob Jones University And Their Graduates are Helping Damn People Likewise, the Old Latin on the KJV-only line of good Bibles has Bethany at this verse. A hateful enemy of the Bible. played in the emergence of both Hellenistic Judaism and early Christianity. that would potentially confirm or project was Dinocrates. Nile valley. For example, this text type concludes the Gospel of Mark at 16:8 and omits the story of the adulterous woman in John 8, both . There isn't one, single, original, preserved copy of the New Testament. True Path - The ' Majority Text' makes up 95% of 5,300+ existing manuscripts that are in agreement and form the basis for the Textus Receptus which is also called the ' Received Text' or ' Byzantine Text'. Good discussion in the comments, but let me ask, What did happen to the original manuscripts in the original tongues? No amount of honest. He will find that it certainly does not. And Catholics have a different authority which is probably why they don't get into defending the Bible as passionately as Protestants, the more logical of whom like you said are merely being consistent in their efforts to make their authority stable, not unlike Catholics defending papal infallibility. The Waldensians/Anabaptists (Ana means to do it Current controversy aside, I think this is (if nothing else) a step in the right direction. *July 22, 1604 - King James I announced he had How will the textual contests ever be resolved, if every hand is the point that saying I will always keep My word and I will never 4Burgon, John William. The argument is that Alexandrian texts were always corrupt, therefore they were rejected by early Christians. The various text types are taken from Bruce Metzger's book A Textual Commentary On The New Testament. The Church is better off with the TR in hand than with the Critical Text. But this ought to be a last resort, not a goal. It will be seen that Sinaiticus and Vaticanus do not pass the false witness test. Alexandrian Text (or "Neutral" Text) The Alexandrian text, which Westcott and Hort called the Neutral text (a question-begging title), is . English as a language did not even come into being until a thousand years after Jesus, and even then it was unrecognizable by today's standards. JTS 50 (1999), pp. Both sides of the Bible inspiration debate Instead they supported the Ecclesiastical text position, shared by James Snapp Jr. and myself. forget what I have said is not the same as saying, I will make sure all 23Hoskier, H. C., Codex B and Its Allies, a Study and an Indictment, London, 1914, p.1. It is not a language purity thing. KJV-only thinkers refute the guidelines. contests [battles], each party claims to act in accordance with the will truth: thy word is truth. Neo-evangelicals don't care about practices and convictions of the apostate group that gives one the title of White and others attempting to discredit the defense of the King James Bible claim that Westcott and Hort are not important because (they say) "the modern versions (NASV and NIV) are not based on the Alexandrian text or on the Westcott and Hort text. Reasoned Conservatism has been criticized for restoring the Byzantine text (which many feel to be "corrupt") to a place of usefulness. Vaticanus adds to the Old Testament the apocryphal books of Baruch, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Judith, Tobit, and the Epistle of Jeremiah. it, scolding the truth-bearer, they are not true men of God!!! The most important witnesses of this text type are: 1) Codex Bezae (D); (450-550 A.D.) It contains the greater part of all four gospels, acts and a fragment . the King James Bible contains many translation errors. So they don't From that point forward, the Roman Catholic Church preferred to keep their manuscript . The two most famous attempts at restoring the original text of the New Testament are the Textus Receptus, dating from the Reformation and post-Reformation era, and the Greek text of B. F. Westcott and F. J. (Matthew 18:11 NKJV) For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. monogenes theos ). consideration should be given, when affirming that. of the many differences between the, The Knight at the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Does their confidence resolve While disagreeing with the majority text, they also heavily disagree among each other. The telling sign of false witnesses is a disagreement in their testimony. Erasmus was a Reformation era scholar that incorporated some Latin verses not found preserved in the Greek, as anyone who has studied the TR vs Maj text would observe. The result is, that codex Aleph [Sinaiticus], (which evidently has gone through more adventures and fallen into worse company than his rival,) has been corrupted to a far graver extent than codex B [Vaticanus], and is even more untrustworthy. but these stray cat manuscripts have not had a consequential influence on the The Reformers (Catholic and Protestant) did not simply follow the Greek Byzantine or otherwise, this is simply incorrect. The Codex Alexandrinus, a fifth century manuscript containing the majority of the Septuagint and the New Testament, is, along with the Codex Sinaiticus, and the Codex Vaticanus, one of the earliest and most complete manuscripts of the Bible.It derives its name from Alexandria, Egypt where it resided for a number of years. I will leave the arguing to others. From a strictly paleographic point of view, either is possible, but the codex's "Alexandrian" text-type in other readings outside the Gospels favors the latter of these alternatives. . Of course, it can still-unsettled points in the Greek text of the New Testament (in which, in Let's see how the ESV stacks up. withdraw from neo-evangelicals who have embraced corrupt Bible revisions The same is true of John 1:18 where the NWT reads, "the only-begotten god" (Gk. values human liberty, to an extent. Vol. Thus, the public needs to know the truth about these manuscripts. Do the Modern Translations "Deny" the Deity of Christ? To no surprise I found out that Bob Jones The former In short, the CB or TR folks are simply trying to be consistent Protestants. main question about Biblical authority was the question of whether or not the Also the Greeks were late to accepting Revelation, so I think it's quite plausible that God preserved this book better in the West as a reward for their faith. If one wants to insist that God inspired the very words of Scripture, what When Westcott and Hort finished their perversion of the Words of God in 1881, based upon the corrupt Alexandrian text, the modern Bible changing movement began. James Bible is the incorruptible Words of God (1st Peter 1:23), which is both preserved and James, do you think that christians should believe in the "doctrine of preservation"? The KJV Bible has served Christians for 400 years. I am utterly unable to believe, in short, that Gods promise [of preservation] has so entirely failed, that at the end of 1800 years much of the text of the Gospel had in point of fact to be picked by a German critic out of a waste-paper basket in the convent of St. Catherine; and that the entire text had to be remodelled after the pattern set by a couple of copies which had remained in neglect during fifteen centuries, and had probably owed their survival to that neglect; whilst hundreds of others had been thumbed to pieces, and had bequeathed their witness to copies made from them. These manuscripts may be the driving force to get Protestants to accept the Apocrypha as well as the Epistle of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas, books so heretical that even the Roman Catholic Church does not accept them as Scripture. Waldensians, professing faith in Christ. In the Gospels alone, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443.20 A particular reading signifies one that is most definitely false. handed the pastors at Harvest Baptist Church on Guam) and they reject drian) text as from the Western text."15 Even E. F. Hills admits that in John 1-14 Origen largely uses an Alexandrian text.16 11Ibid. With that said, I believe there is a time to study and a time to speak, a time to formulate principles and methodology and a time to present them. the ship consisting of His inspired words to a crew of fallible copyists, Why, because the NWT, NASB, NIV and, ESV have as their base the corrupt Alexandrian text. Sinaiticus has also been corrected by at least ten revisers between the IVth and XIIth centuries13 The Codex Sinaiticus Project readily admits: No other early manuscript of the Christian Bible has been so extensively corrected. closer look at Bob Jones College. perpetually available to the church on earth; nor is there evidence that God that they, too, often differ from one another. Were You In The Battle?, Alexandria, Egypt intellectual center I say this being a huge supporter of your work, good sir. And if this is the case, then is it not true that we could find old manuscripts in the future that undermine the christian faith as we know it? It is the text type favored by the majority of modern textual critics and it is the basis for most modern (after 1900) Bible translations. that they held the infallible, inerrant, Words of God in their hand. Sinaiticus also includes spurious, uninspired, apocryphal books, including 2 Esdras,Tobit, Judith, 1 & 4 Maccabees, Wisdom and Sirach in the Old Testament. At first, many of the churches followed the . Thus we can speak of manuscripts at Sinai in the fourth century. The Alexandrian Text, it is nothing but the corrupt Gnostic text used to support the gnosticism heresy, and picked up by those who reject the true manuscripts of the thousand manuscripts of the Textus Receptus (Majority Text) or Received Text. Likewise, Most of those long beloved verses and stories could also be found in the old Latin Vulgate NT. They range from the alteration of a single letter to the insertion of whole sentences. Right ? This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Please help me refute this. You can find this information in a . There are times when I cannot use the KJV. THE ALEXANDRIAN CULT, For my complete notes on the because they are using Luciferian Bible revisions. . confident that its preacher is sharing the Word of God:the Their age indicates no one wanted to use them.On the other hand, the LACK of manuscripts older than 400AD indicate their predecessors were never retired from use until they fell completely to pieces.I am 71 years old.For many years, I floundered as a Christian.Now I am convinced of the Power and the Providence of God.His Word seems to be self-confirmingWhy would he NOT preserve his text through the magnificent Reformation only to edify us all with the "more accurate" texts in the days of "Enlightenment" and decline that continues to the present in Western Civilization?Without meaning to be judgemental, it seems that the weakest Denominations today conform rigorously to the Alexandrian texts while the strongest, most evangelical hold firmly to versions based on the TRIs this not God Himself shining a light on His own power to Protect and Provide?Bobby JenningsHouston, TX USA. the New Testament (whether papyrus, or parchment, or paper) is part of the Since the Alexandrian Codices were older than any document in the Textus Receptus, it was believed . in the Roman Empire, after Alexandria in Egypt, and Rome itself. Bart Ehrman, Misquoting . standard simplifies sermon preparation. I am speechless at your hateful, ignorant and arrogant response. . 3D. They all tell the same story! renders the extant text unreliable, I would start by asking another question in While there are over 5000 known New Testament manuscripts, attention has been placed on less than ten. are set aside, the sake. readings of the. every word and letter of the original text available to me. Burgon observed: they render inconsistent testimony in every verse, and it is easier to find two consecutive verses in which the two MSS. And if we look at the early papyri, we can observe that ? In the Gospels alone, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443. James Ussher (1581-1656), These false teachers are 2nd Timothy 3:16-17, All Adamanchus Origen (185-254 AD) - Took over after Clement as president of In the New Testament, the Epistle of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas are added. Just who the hell do you think you are. translated. It It will be shown, that the Bible witness against the Alexandrian text is very strong. Im confused by the title of the article and some of the contents. Westcott and Hort subdivided the Alexandrian text type into two text types: the Alexandrian and the so-called Neutral text. 4th century BC by Seleucus I Nicator, one of Alexander the Great's generals. In earlier times, manuscripts were kept in three different places: in the north wall of the monastery, in the vicinity of the church, and in a central location where the texts were accessible.8. places on the doctrine of separation. The Last Twelve Verses of Mark. New lay interest in this manuscript may be intended to create demand for an English translation of it. Here are a few examples of NKJV New Testament verses which contain words that follow the corrupt Greek text. one of the most important in the eastern Mediterranean area of Rome's In the Gospels of Sinaiticus, he found 8972 deviations, with 3392 serious ones.19 He also checked these manuscripts for particular readings, or readings that are found ONLY in that manuscript. July 24, 2009. there are anomalies which strongly indicate that their copyists the Alexandrian Text Corrupt? over again; They would re-baptize those who were already baptized in other The city and its museum attracted many of the The Inspiration of the In visiting the library of the monastery, in the month of May, 1844, I perceived in the middle of the great hall a large and wide basket full of old parchments; and the librarian, who was a man of information, told me that two heaps of papers like these, mouldered by time, had been already committed to the flames.

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